Book Club Discussion: Rejecting both absolutism and relativism

I’m really excited about the book club selection for the month of May, How (Not) to Speak of God by Peter Rollins. Anyone who is curious about the theological and philosophical underpinnings of the emerging church movement will benefit from Rollins’ fresh and intelligent approach to the subject. It’s one of the best books about theology that I’ve read in years, my copy already suffering from the wear and tear of constant referral.

Rollins starts by discussing two seemingly contradictory ideas, summarized in the following phrases:

 


Holding both of these views simultaneously is one of the greatest challenges of the Christian life, and is the theme of Rollins’ book.

In searching for a worthy response, Rollins says he is drawn to Christian mystics like Meister Ekhart, “for while they did not embrace total silence, they balked at the presumption of those who would seek to colonize the name ‘God’  with concepts…By speaking with wounded words of their wounded Christ, these mystics helped to develop, not a distinct religious tradition, but rather a way of engaging with and understanding already existing religious traditions: seeing them as a loving response to God rather than a way of defining God.”

Throughout the book, Rollins critiques the idea that theology defines or explains God in favor of the idea that theology is our way of interacting with God, which at its best, is manifested by a loving and Christ-like manner.

Rollins writes that “the difference between the idea that our Christian traditions describe God and the view that they are worshipful responses to God is important to grasp, for while the former seeks to define, the latter is engaged with response.” (21)

Rollins argues that revelation is not the opposite of concealment, but that the Word of God has mystery built into its very heart. As believers, we must acknowledge the extent to which our supposed God-talk fails to define who or what God is, not to the degree that we stop talking about God, but to the degree that we leave room in our theology for mystery, doubt, complexity, and ambiguity.

Central to Rollins’ thesis is the rejection of the modern notion that humans have the capacity to grasp objective universal truth. Rollins insists that “when we make absolute claims concerning what we believe about the world or God, acting as if our opinions were the result of some painstaking, objective and rational reflection, we end up deceiving ourselves, for our understanding is always an interpretation of the information before us…and thus is always affected by what we bring to the table.”

(This, of course, is a typical postmodern approach to epistemology: No one can claim to be a truly objective observer; we are all influenced by our interpretive communities.)

This is where the emerging church comes in. Rollins writes, “here I picture the emerging community as a significant part of a wider religious movement which rejects both absolutism and relativism as idolatrous positions which hide their human origins in the modern myth of pure reason. Instead of following the Greek-influenced idea of orthodoxy as right belief…the emerging community is helping us to rediscover the more Hebraic and mystical notion of the orthodox Christian as one who believes in the right way - that is, believing in a loving, sacrificial and Christlike manner.” (2)

I love this description of the emerging church. Rollins hits the nail on the head when he describes the movement as a rejection of both absolutism and relativism. I also appreciate his emphasis on orthopraxy. I think a lot of young evangelicals are getting frustrated with the apologetics-driven culture of modern fundamentalism, which often emphasizes “right belief” to the neglect of  “right action.”

So what do you think? Are believers really able to grasp absolute truth? Can one reject absolutism without embracing relativism? Perhaps more importantly, what is the purpose theology? When is theology truly effective?


Matt
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Good thoughts
Reply #1 on : Mon May 05, 2008, 21:44:59
Rachel,

I appreciate the comments and quotes laid out here. Those are good thoughts to meditate and pray on.

Thanks.
Julie
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Re: Book Club Discussion: Rejecting both absolutism and relativism
Reply #2 on : Tue May 06, 2008, 04:34:34
So what do you think? Are believers really able to grasp absolute truth? Can one reject absolutism without embracing relativism? Perhaps more importantly, what is the purpose theology? When is theology truly effective?



I suppose there is a difference between saying that a human cannot grasp an absolute truth and saying there are no absolutes. Call me old fashion, say I’m quoting the same old same old, or say I am ‘logical’ but how can there be “absolutely no absolutes?” I believe that humans can grasp absolute truths. I believe this on a practical level and a philosophical/theological one. Practically speaking, we learn many things about the world from a very early age such as gravity. We may not be able to recite the physical laws of the universe but we have a basic understanding of them by the time we are adults. We can also learn those laws from a book and memorize them. Using those laws in a systematic way we can learn even more about the world we live in. Sometimes we come to the wrong conclusion but we still have learned something(s) we didn’t know before. We mustn’t become arrogant and think we have everything figured out.

The Bible (which I hold as inspired by the One True God and therefore authoritative over other writings) implies that we have the ability to know things when it tells us things that we can know for sure. As I read the above questions I remembered a verse I learned in childhood. Actually, the phrase that came to mind was “that ye may know.”

John 5:13-14
13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
14And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

I noticed something when I looked up the phrase, “that ye may know,” in the KJV it showed up 17 times. “That you may know” showed up 16 and 23 times in the NIV and NASB respectively. I didn’t have time to look it up in the Greek and Hebrew but I think that God has revealed certain things for us to know. I do believe that God has also chosen not to reveal other truths to us. I am blanking on specific passages at the moment but the book of Revelation itself is not written in away that we can completely know and understand everything in it. However, we are given enough information that as the truth is revealed we don’t have to be completely taken by surprise. This isn’t to open an end- times debate. But I hope you can see my point.

We must admit to ourselves that we have biases. Paul discusses how the flesh causes us to sin and that our new self is at war with our old nature. If we aren’t willing to admit that we can be wrong, we will fail. “Pride cometh before a fall.” However, just because I might be biased doesn’t me I am going to give up learning things about the world, and God, and I am not going to reject absolutism. I am going to continually strive to learn absolutes, shedding my on personal bias as I grow in grace and truth (not just truth but grace or love—truth and love/grace go together).

Paul says in
Philippians 1:6 For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.

II Peter 2:17-18 tells us that we ought to be growing in grace and knowledge. Truth is an ever-fixed mark but our knowledge is not. We can’t confuse a lack of knowledge with a lack of absolutes. Just because we learned something new or that we were wrong does not mean that an absolute truth fell away. No, we were absolutely wrong and part of our flesh fell away. So I believe that as we renew our minds with the word of God we can grow closer and closer to understanding the truths that have been revealed to us until that day that He takes us home to be with him and allows us to see in a mirror that isn’t dark (I Corinthians 13:1-13 written below). (I contend that we must be growing in grace as well or our knowledge will be stunted. Don’t confuse grace (love, kindness) as being associated with relativism where no one is right or wrong and we all love everyone. True kindness (love, grace) does not dismiss truth for a lack of contention—love does not delight in evil but rejoices in the truth—I Cor 13:6.)

Theology gives us a system to help us understand the truths that have been revealed to us. Our faith shouldn’t be in the system but the system should be describing our faith. Studying laws of physics can help us to understand the world, however we don’t believe in gravity because of a textbook. We can use the laws of physics to add to our knowledge by applying them to new experiments. When studying theology we can take the textbook out line and apply the knowledge we gain from our study of theology to help us learn more about God. Just like physicists have come to some wrong conclusions, we also might come to some wrong conclusions as well, but just like the Scientist added to his knowledge we too learn more than we knew before we started studying. Also, we aren’t to renew our mind using some man’s (or woman’s) theology book but to renew it with Scripture. Theology is just a framework to help us start studying the truths in God’s word in a systematic way. It shouldn’t ever be used instead of studying God’s word!

If we become arrogant in our conclusions at any point of our study I believe we stunt our growth in truth. Love is defined in part my humility and truth.

1 Corinthians 13:1-13
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.


(Side note: verse 12 just about makes me want to cry when I read the whole passage.) Love is how we are to act out truth. Right beliefs should lead to right (loving) actions. Rachel said, “I think a lot of young evangelicals are getting frustrated with the apologetics-driven culture of modern fundamentalism, which often emphasizes ‘right belief’ to the neglect of ‘right action.’ ” If the “right beliefs” are not leading to right actions (or no action at all) then I would agree something is wrong. However, that doesn’t mean it is the teaching that is wrong. It could also be the students are wrong. The above passage in I Corinthians puts apologetics/theology or knowledge in its proper place. It will pass away and faith hope and love will remain, but that will not happen until we are able to be face to face with the One who created knowledge in the first place.

I believe that this issue of absolutism vs. relativism is a heart issue. Mentally I cannot accept relativism and neither can I accept that there is some murky gray area in between. At most I can say that the murky area isn’t filled with half-truths but complete ones that I just don’t understand yet. And that “yet” might not be until God has taken me home. However, if I allow myself to be filled with pride as an absolutist I am sinning and I am in error. We must learn humility. Not self-deprecation, and not soft-pedaling truth but our attitude must reflect that we understand that we are finite and fallen beings who have been saved by grace and not by our works lest any one should boast (Eph 2:8-9)! We must remember that the Creator of the Universe made the absolutes! We didn’t make them! He allows us to discover them. We shouldn’t get puffed up because “we have the answers.” No, no, God has the answers and he gives us grace to know them and perfects us with them until the day of Christ Jesus when we shall know fully and we are fully known!


1611 words finished 4:30am please pardon my typos!

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